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Landlords of The Wheel Inn pub in Westwell, near Ashford, ban children under 14 and ‘couldn’t give a toss’ about social media backlash

05:00, 11 October 2024

updated: 12:04, 11 October 2024

Defiant landlords who have banned children from their village pub say they “couldn’t give a toss” about the backlash on social media.

Mandy Keefe and John Forge welcomed punters back to The Wheel Inn in Westwell, near Ashford, last week after it was closed for more than two years.

Mandy Keefe and John Forge, landlords of The Wheel Inn in Westwell, near Ashford, have banned children under the age of 14 from entering the pub. Picture: SWNS / Tony Kershaw
Mandy Keefe and John Forge, landlords of The Wheel Inn in Westwell, near Ashford, have banned children under the age of 14 from entering the pub. Picture: SWNS / Tony Kershaw

The pair have lovingly renovated and extended the venue which also features an adjoining tea room.

But one clientele group was missing from the opening party - kids.

The couple say the decision not to admit under-14s was made due to a lack of adult-only spaces and relaxed environments where people do not have to mind their language.

Mr Forge told KentOnline: “We're getting older people saying, ‘Brilliant, we don't want bloody kids running about.’

“We get people actually standing at the bar saying, ‘This is great because we don't have to worry.’

The notice outside the pub. Picture: SWNS / Tony Kershaw
The notice outside the pub. Picture: SWNS / Tony Kershaw

“In a pub, you don't watch your language. You're drinking - you’re taking a legal drug.

“You're then, at times, behaving inappropriately.

“Customers have said it's brilliant because they don't have to watch exactly what they're saying.”

The publicans say they do not want to facilitate a rowdy atmosphere or encourage swearing and shouting.

“But, it still happens,” Ms Keefe said.

Mandy Keefe and John Forge want to create an adult-only space at The Wheel Inn pub. Picture: SWNS / Tony Kershaw
Mandy Keefe and John Forge want to create an adult-only space at The Wheel Inn pub. Picture: SWNS / Tony Kershaw

“Do people really want their children in that sort of adult environment?

“Also, what is there for children to do? So, they get bored.

“Then they start to run, they start to cry, or they get shouty.

“That impacts on those people who have come in here for a quiet, adult time.

“We've had people in here sitting all evening on the sofas, meeting up with their friends, having a nice chat, and all have said what a lovely atmosphere it is.

“Unfortunately, part of that lovely atmosphere is no children.”

Up until 1995, it was illegal in England and Wales to bring under 14s into pubs.

The Licensing Act 2003 allows pubs and restaurants to operate their own policies relating to children.

Ms Keefe, who has adult children herself, says the Wheel Inn’s rule is “to some extent” an ode to the glory days of the boozer.

The 62-year-old said: “If you go on holiday, you can choose to go to an adult-only hotel or resort or cruise. Here, where can you go where there are no children? Nowhere.

The Wheel Inn landlords Mandy Keefe and John Forge with chef Noah Smith. Picture: SWNS / Tony Kershaw
The Wheel Inn landlords Mandy Keefe and John Forge with chef Noah Smith. Picture: SWNS / Tony Kershaw

“What we've done here is given people a choice.

“We're the only ones that are saying no children.

“We're providing a nice environment for adults to go where they can talk and chat and be adults together.”

However, some critics on social media have blasted the rule as “archaic”.

One mother, who recently moved to the village, said: “It will please a very small demographic, unfortunately not the future one.

The landlords recently reopened the pub after a renovation. Picture: SWNS / Tony Kershaw
The landlords recently reopened the pub after a renovation. Picture: SWNS / Tony Kershaw

“Even when my kids come 'of age', I don't get the impression they'll be welcomed with open arms.

“It's archaic and just a shame more than anything. We're gutted as we were looking forward to getting to know people in the village.”

The landlords, who bought the village’s only pub in March 2022, say they will not change their policy to please parents.

Mr Forge, 59, said: “I really couldn't give a toss about them because what you'll find is that they're actually hypocrites.

“At the end of the day - when their kids have grown up - 90% of them will want to go to a child-free environment.”

The pair say they do not care what critics say on social media. Picture: SWNS / Tony Kershaw
The pair say they do not care what critics say on social media. Picture: SWNS / Tony Kershaw

Ms Keefe was more affected by the criticism and dismayed that it occurred on social media rather than in person.

“When the signs went up, nobody came to speak to us. Not one person,” she said.

“It's a close-knit community, and then suddenly you look on what is the village Facebook page, and you see it being slated.

“It's not very pleasant.

“It felt like I was being bullied into changing my mind rather than coming in the door and asking why we’ve done it.”

Inside the village pub. Picture: SWNS / Tony Kershaw
Inside the village pub. Picture: SWNS / Tony Kershaw

Mr Forge added: “They shouldn't be allowed to dictate. There are places for them to go. Go to those places - end of.”

Before last Thursday, the former Shepherd Neame-owned Wheel Inn had been closed for more than two and a half years.

The previous landlord boarded up the building, saying it was a “fantastic pub”, but trade had dropped after the Covid pandemic.

After purchasing the inn, the current owners’ first planning bid for an extension was refused by Ashford Borough Council, sparking outrage against the authority in the village.

A second application was given the green light and the couple undertook a lengthy renovation.

Inside the refurbished Wheel Inn. Picture: SWNS / Tony Kershaw
Inside the refurbished Wheel Inn. Picture: SWNS / Tony Kershaw

A House of Commons research briefing on ‘children in pubs’ says: “A commercial service provider like a restaurateur or pub landlord is entitled to refuse to serve someone.

“In exercising that right, the service provider must consider the obligations placed on them by legislation outlawing discrimination on grounds of disability or race.

“However, there is no law that would cover alleged ‘discrimination’ against children.”

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